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2010-02-26 05:10 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
hey I just want to say I read your comment on that Miss Beverly Hills post on ontd and I agree with you and applaud you! I wish I had the guts to comment on there like you did. I love that site for my updates, but the anti-Christian/Jesus comments are sometimes too much to take.

Anyway, I think you're awesome! :)

2010-02-26 08:18 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Oh man, be glad you didn't. There was actually some good discussion/debate going on amidst the usual ONTD comment stupidity (OMG UR SO INTOLERANT B/C UR A CHRISTIAN type stuff), but because of that I stayed up for literally hours past my usual bed time! Oy. Still. It was a good debate. Some of the people were genuinely curious what I thought, even if they did conclude I'm nuts afterward. (I think people can choose what they do! I must be cuhrazy!)

But thank you so much for this comment! You and two others are the only ones who were remotely encouraging. Nothing like a bunch of people telling you you're an intolerant bigot because of your beliefs and not seeing the irony in their saying it. ;o)

2010-02-26 11:08 (UTC)
- Posted by (Anonymous)

I frequently lurk on ONTD and wanted to stop by after seeing the Miss Beverly Hills post (and the ensuing discussion about homosexuality/Christianity). I really just wanted to commend you for speaking so honestly and eloquently about what you believe. I'm also a Christian and I can't deny that reading the homosexuality/Christianity arguments (shouting matches?) on ONTD often make me cringe. They're always pretty brutal and usually if you don't agree with the majority or toe the (implied) line then you are not really welcome there. As I was reading your replies, though, I felt like I was reading everything I would like to be able to say...only you said it much better. I thought that your comment on tolerance was particularly insightful. Very often people forget what tolerance really means and take it to mean 'accepting everything'. It's unfortunate that that opinion sometimes removes the possibility of honest debate/discussion.

I noticed that someone replied to you saying that you 'won't bother questioning your faith'? or something like that, and I thought that was unfair. I cannot speak for you, but I personally have had many doubts about my faith and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. We are only human, and as much as we study we can never come close to understanding God and His reasoning. I definitely don't study the Word and Christianity as much as I should :( (I'm always astounded by the concepts that my friends in seminary have to wrestle with), so I always feel like I'm grasping for the right words/verses when I talk to someone about my viewpoint. I was really encouraged by how you supported your beliefs with Word and didn't lose your cool. Unfortunately I think that since Christians hold/speak from a completely different world view (with Christian "terminology"), non-Christians can't REALLY see where we're coming from, won't understand our 'logic', and probably will not be fond of what is said.

I can imagine how homosexuals feel when faced with the "Christian" argument as it is probably offensive to their very being. I know they are apparently disgusted with people who "play the 'I have gay friends!' card", but I really do have gay friends, and I think they are wonderful. Because of them, and because of the environment in which I grew up, I wish there wasn't this conflict. Sometimes I wonder if at the end we'll find out that we misinterpreted God's word, or that the beliefs we subscribe to are way off. Sometimes I wish that in the Bible there was no "rule" against homosexuality, so there wouldn't be such anger/division over the issue. Even after studying other belief systems, though, I find that Christianity/Christian worldview is the most "true"--and like many of the people who replied to you said, you cannot pick and choose :P

Anyway, sorry for the horrendously long essay and the unnecessary blathering--your comments struck a chord and I guess I felt like letting it out :) Just wanted to say thanks, and also thank you for being--what I feel, at least--a good representative of Christianity. I can understand why people reacted angrily because they have very different beliefs, but there is never a good reason to curse or call someone names. Regardless of what one believes, it is that behavior that really smacks of intolerance. It is rare for me to find encouragement for my faith in good ol' Internet-Land, so I'm glad I read that discussion.

Sorry again for length! God bless-

2010-02-26 15:44 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
I was a lurker for a long time and actually finally joined ONTD to comment on the Seth Green engagement post since, as part of a couple where the girl is taller than the guy, I thought I'd post my thoughts, but I never did get there 'cause the homosexuality debate happened first. So my first ever comment on ONTD was my first comment there - which, BTW, was very objective, I thought. I should've known things would go downhill from there. Heh.

I was surprisingly impressed with how good the discussion was. I felt like some of those people were asking honest questions and truly trying to understand where I was coming from. (I don't think they did, in the end, but at least they have something new to think about.) There were some flamers and idiots, sure, but I pretty much ignored them and just talked to those who wanted to talk.

I agree. I don't think there is any Christian who hasn't questioned their faith - or if they haven't, they will one day. That's normal. God can handle our doubts and questions. Many times a crisis of faith brings us closer to God. I have questioned my faith before. That's why, I as I mentioned to someone on ONTD, I've studied a lot of other religions, and more importantly, I've studied the Bible. I know why I believe what I believe.

as much as we study we can never come close to understanding God and His reasoning.
SO TRUE. I wish I had an answer for everything, but I don't. I'm one of those personality types that really wants an answer for everything, but God didn't give us all the answers because He knew we didn't need them. He gives us a heck of a lot of answers, but not all of them. There are a lot of things I don't understand even after studying, but any God that humans are able to fully understand is not much of a God. I'm sure people on ONTD think that's a cop-out, but it's not.

I don't study the Word as much as I should either. I did go to Bible college, but before and since I've struggled with that. Like, all the time I spend on ONTD could be spent studying the Bible, but I just wave that off, you know? It's stupid of me. But thankfully I did do the study and research before and have retained a lot of it. I also have a great pastor who is not afraid to tackle tough subjects as they arise in Bible passages, and is really big on preaching the Bible in context.

I can imagine how homosexuals feel when faced with the "Christian" argument as it is probably offensive to their very being.
I know. And yet every time I said I understood that, people mocked me. I can't imagine how much it would suck to be told that feelings you've had since birth (I do believe gays are born that way, because we are all born with sin natures) are wrong. But we are not slaves to sin! We can choose not to do things. One thing I wish I would've thought to mention last night is how there are a lot of heterosexual people who choose never to act on their heterosexual lusts either. I talked about my husband and me, but we weren't really good examples since we got married, so our abstaining was just delayed gratification. But I know men and women who are straight who are old and are still virgins, or have stumbled once or twice but for 80 years of their life have denied their inborn and almost overwhelming desires. There are a lot of people who love each other who never get to be with the person they love. It happens all the time.

I know they are apparently disgusted with people who "play the 'I have gay friends!' card", but I really do have gay friends, and I think they are wonderful.
Yeah, that's really frustrating, because they think we're making it up to look cool or something, but, well, I do have gay friends! How else do they want me to phrase it? LOL.

Haha, I have to continue this. I'm worse than you were! ;o)


2010-02-26 15:44 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Sometimes I wish that in the Bible there was no "rule" against homosexuality, so there wouldn't be such anger/division over the issue.
Me too. Ditto with heterosexual sex outside of marriage. It would be really nice if living with a non-spouse significant other was OK. These days it is considered normal to everyone but Christians (and even to many Christians), but God says sex outside of marriage is wrong. Sorry. Wish he didn't. He does. It truly angers me to think how we Christians have hurt gay people because God calls it sin. I do not see how it's any worse than any other sin! And it bugs me like whoa to see people use Leviticus as their proof text. PEOPLE, you have to read the Bible IN CONTEXT. Oh, that just kills me, when people snatch one random verse out of there and ignore the other rules that the Old Testament Jews had. It also bugs me that apparently people on ONTD think that when a Christian disagrees with someone, we keep beating them over the head with it. No, they know what I believe, and that's that - we don't need to discuss it all the time.

thank you for being--what I feel, at least--a good representative of Christianity.
Thank you for saying that. I really think many Christians agree with you and me, but it seems the idiots are the loudest, so they make everyone else think we're all that way.

I can understand why people reacted angrily because they have very different beliefs, but there is never a good reason to curse or call someone names.
I understand it too, I really do. When people go on rants against Christianity or say untrue things about Jesus, it makes me angry too. But I don't go flame people or swear at them or call them names. I believe an intelligent person can carry on a discussion or debate without devolving into such things.

And God bless you. That's not something I say often because it usually sounds kind of trite, but I mean it. I prayed for all those people in the discussion last night, and I'll pray for you too.

2010-02-26 11:09 (UTC)
- Posted by (Anonymous)
Oh my gosh. That really is very long.

2010-09-12 02:26 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
I've seen you around for years now, and stopped by from time to time. I am also a Christian, and also very conservative politically. I'd love to get to know you more on here, if you're up to someone new. If not, I will understand completely!

2010-12-08 15:50 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Hello :)

I saw you on a mutual friend's blog and thought I'd say hello. It looks like we have a lot in common... check out my profile and add me if you like! :)

2010-12-08 20:15 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Well, hi! It does seem like we have a lot in common, not the least of which is [ profile] modernelegance, a dear friend of mine. Anyone who is a friend of hers can be a friend of mine. I added you.

Also... you live in Jax too? And you sing at Celebration Church? That's awesome! I've only been there once, for a small concert (Jimmy Needham - love him!) but it looked like a very nice church. I live on the Westside but man, I love Jacksonville. Have you lived here for your entire life?

2010-12-08 22:52 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Yep! Jacksonville born and raised. We seem to be a minority... What about you? What church are you at? I love Celebration. My husband and I are at the St. Johns campus now... off San Jose. :)

2010-12-08 23:05 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
I know a few native Jacksonvillains, but not many. And I know a few who grew up here, went away for a while, and then came back. I grew up in the Midwest but thankfully my mom got a job here in Jax when I was 18. I don't like cold weather so I always hoped to end up in Florida eventually. (And yes, this recent cold snap totally counts as cold weather! I busted out my gloves and even my hat this morning!) And I *love* Jacksonville. My husband grew up in New England and he loves it here too. (We met at Bible college.)

We go to a little church called Westside Chapel ( Most people haven't heard of it, but we love it. =o)

My husband works in Mandarin but I didn't even know there was another Celebration campus. Ha! Do you do satellite services or do you have your own pastor and everything there?

2011-08-09 00:18 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
It was super fun to meet you and sweet Elijah at Kel's, and you are now on my friend's list. Haha, be very afraid. ;)

2011-08-09 00:39 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Ooh, yay! I meant to add you when I got home, but you can see how well I did at that. LOL.

2011-08-09 00:47 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Haha, well, me too. Life happens so fast! :P

2012-01-29 01:28 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Hello! Thus is Mireya. I'd been meaning to ask what your username was, but Seth told me.

2012-01-29 04:31 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Well hey! Do you actually write in your LJ? If so, I'll add you! I tend not to add people who are just lurkers though... even if I know them IRL. Maybe especially if I know them, because then they find out my unfiltered opinions about things. Just don't go telling Seth anything I write about him... mwahahahaha. ;o)

2012-01-30 13:43 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
I had been writing in it, until this past summer. The people I knew stopped using it. I would update now and again for the online friends, but the also stopped reading, so I started to wonder why I was writing. I'd come back on now and again. I was between jobs, so nothing much was happening, either. Yeah, I tend to be more unfiltered here too. So maybe there's things you don't want to know about Seth. XD It's up to you.

2012-02-29 00:29 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Followed you over here from therightfangirl, and I like your LJ. May I friend you?

2012-02-29 03:49 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Sure! Looks like we have a few wonderful mutual friends too. =o)

2012-08-31 00:54 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Hillsdale, sci-fi and the Patriots! Sounds like a great combo. Let's be friends.

2012-09-01 01:54 (UTC)
- Posted by [identity profile]
Indeed! Welcome!


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